Sunday, August 12, 2012

R and R

that should be enough to make most sane Americans say they are staying with President Obama for the next 4 yrs...I know I am!!

14 comments:

Jerry Critter said...

Me too.

clif said...

Ryan won't help the flailing R-money campaign any better then the wasilla fraud helped old McInsane show.

Flying Junior said...

The dumb fucking tea partiers don't get that their taxes would go up and considerably under flat-tax maniacs like Ryan.

My woman thinks that Romney just handed the election to Obama. If only it were that simple. Karl Rove, Jeb Bush and their ilk are some pretty nefarious and double-dealing dastards. Still, desperation seems to be the only reason to stir the pot so dangerously. Ryan can't possibly appeal to independents and moderates.

I read in the New Yorker magazine earlier this year about Marco Rubio's convicted, major cocaine dealer brother-in-law. That's way too much baggage for the national stage. Kinda close to home when you think about it. We can thank our lucky stars for that! A cleaner, more virginal Rubio could have easily delivered Florida if not more southern or western states.

In other news, Ryan also advocated fracking and off-shore drilling for oil off of the coast of Virginia.

Silverfiddle said...

Barack Obama and the Democrats are already ending medicare as we know it.

Obamacare guts medicare, taking $800 billion from it, and that's just in the short term.

Report from Medicare Chief Actuary

Sue said...

On 'Obama cuts $700 billion from Medicare'

· The claim that OBAMACARE cuts $700 BILLION from Medicare is TRUE and the GOOD NEWS is that in doing so, it INCREASES HEALTHCARE FOR SENIORS and AT THE SAME TIME cuts fraud, WASTE and abuse. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office determined that the Medicare provisions in President Obama's health care law would save $700 BILLION over a decade and EXTENDS THE LIFE OF MEDICARE. Extends it EIGHT YEARS.

GOP talking points: Mitt Romney also laid out commonsense reforms that will make good on our promises to today’s seniors and save Social Security and Medicare for future generations.

The truth: The ROMNEY-RYAN plan takes $700 BILLION AWAY FROM SENIORS but does NOT use it to fund HEALTH SERVICES for ANYBODY. Yet Republicans in the House voted to strip that $700 Billion FROM SENIORS ENTIRELY. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimates under the ROMNEY-RYAN plan new Medicare beneficiaries will pay more than $1,200 OUT OF POCKET by 2030 and more than $5,900 more by 2050 and SHIFT ADDITIONAL COSTS to seniors by RAISING the eligibility age to 67. This NEGATIVELY impacts today's middle-aged, middle class HARD WORKING Americans while giving the wealthiest 1-percent HUGE TAX BREAKS.

Sources:
FACT CHECK: Questionable claims in veep debut

Romney Slams Obama For Medicare Cuts In Ryan’s Budget

Jerry Critter said...

"Obamacare guts Medicare...". SF now supports Obamacare!

Silverfiddle said...

Nope, just providing you with the facts as spelled out by the Chief Actuary for the program.

He doesn't say what you want to hear, so you ignore it.

And the claim that more people get coverage by taking money away is absurd.

I guess you guys also believe in "Eat Yourself thin" diets. No wonder this country's in trouble...

Sue said...

Sununu is on Hardball and said "actuary" at the exact same time as I was reading SF's "actuary"... :)

clif said...

R/R

clif said...

In some US states, not poor enough for health care

Then she heard that her state's governor won't agree to the federal plan to extend Medicaid coverage to people like her in two years.

"You fall through the cracks and there's nothing you can do about it," said the 52-year-old. "It makes me feel like garbage, like the American dream, my dream in my homeland, is not being accomplished."

Many working parents like Pico are below the federal poverty line but don't qualify for Medicaid, a decades-old state-federal health insurance program and the nation's single largest insurer.

That's especially true in states where conservative (republican) governors say they'll reject the Medicaid expansion under Obama's health law. In Florida, making $11,000 a year is too much for Medicaid for a family of three. In Mississippi, $8,200 a year is too much. In Louisiana and Texas, earning more than just $5,000 a year makes you ineligible for Medicaid.

Governors in those states, as well as South Carolina, have said they'll reject the Medicaid expansion underpinning Obama's health law after the Supreme Court's decision gave states that option. Many of those hurt by the decision are working parents.

"We don't need the federal government telling us what to do when it comes to meeting the needs of the citizens of our states," Florida Gov. Rick Scott wrote recently in an opinion piece for U.S. News and World Report.


... kinda reminds me of that paternal benevolence of the North Korean Government.

If the wingnuts get their way many poor and people of color will live not much better then the average citizen of North Korea, and for some reason that is OK with the wingnuts.

Shaw Kenawe said...

"Gallup polls of registered voters after the announcements of running mates since Dick Cheney in 2000 all showed more positive reactions. Only Dan Quayle in a 1988 Harris Poll of likely voters was viewed less positively than Ryan, with 52% rating Quayle as a 'fair' or 'poor' vice presidential choice. The Ryan poll includes all adults, not just registered voters.

The poll also finds 17% of adults say they are more likely to vote for Romney in November because Ryan is his running mate -- about the same impact Sarah Palin had for John McCain four years ago among registered voters."

But if you point this out to the cons, they'll blame Mr. Obama for Ryan's piss-poor showing.



clif said...

Interesting that both John Sununu and Tim Pawlenty tried but failed to derail Solidad O'Brien's debunking of their dishonest talking points, when they appeared on her show on CNN.

The right wing spin machine is flailing about as badly as the R-moneybot 2012 is now a days.

Little Pauly Ryan couldn't help them like they thunked he would.

Seems the rest of us don't live in the ignorant right wing bubble, and parts of the MSM refuse to play along with the extreme far right fringe of America.

Even Chuck Todd has gotten in on the be an actual journalist act.

No wonder the right wing teatards are having such meltdowns now a days.

Dave Dubya said...

Ryan is a typical Republican. Their mission is to gut public services, privatize Medicare and Social Security, and redirect tax dollars to insurance companies.

Same old crap. We know who they work for and it's not we the people.

Samuel L. Bronkowitz said...

No, fiddle. Like the good Stalinist diehard you are, you faithfully repeat the Politburo line, but we are all aware of the "800 billion" and how it is supposedly "taken." Your unfamiliarity with the ACA's provisions is almost as bad as your unfamiliarity with history, Government, and life on Earth. It's time to extract your head from the bowels of Boortz, unless your skin has grafter to his sigmoid colon. After all this time, you may need surgical separation.