Purely Symbolic and Totally a Waste of our Time...

The symbolic vote to repeal the health care bill passed in the House today, Harry Reid says he will not bring it up in the Senate, GOOD FOR YOU HARRY REID!!  Today's vote did one important thing, it showed Americans exactly who the GOP is and whose side they are on.
If you missed the debate on C-Span take a look at this clip of Rep. George Miller D-California, I love this guy. His speech was one of my favorites of the day!



I can't believe we are back here once again talking about health insurance. As I watched those GOP House members come to the microphone and LIE about "a government takeover of health care" I was stunned they are still using that LIE, That LINE, That rethug talking point...IT IS SICKENING! Listen up Republicans, There is NO PUBLIC OPTION, There is no government takeover of our hospitals, The parts of the bill already in effect rely largely on the free market!

PolitiFact chose  “government takeover of health care” as the 2010 Lie of the Year. Uttered by dozens of politicians and pundits, it played an important role in shaping public opinion about the health care plan and was a significant factor in the Democrats’ shellacking in the November elections.

Readers of PolitiFact, the St. Petersburg Times’ independent fact-checking website, also chose it as the year’s most significant falsehood by an overwhelming margin. (Their second-place choice was Rep. Michele Bachmann’s claim that Obama was going to spend $200 million a day on a trip to India)


Does this sound like a government takeover??
1. Employers will continue to provide health insurance to the majority of Americans through private insurance companies.
2. Contrary to the claim, more people will get private health coverage. The law sets up “exchanges” where private insurers will compete to provide coverage to people who don’t have it.
3. The government will not seize control of hospitals or nationalize doctors.
4. The law does not include the public option, a government-run insurance plan that would have competed with private insurers.
5. The law gives tax credits to people who have difficulty affording insurance, so they can buy their coverage from private providers on the exchange. But here too, the approach relies on a free market with regulations, not socialized medicine.

The Rethuglicans still claim a government takeover is exactly what Obama planned, and the provision that requires Americans to buy insurance is proof, BUT the citizens will be buying their insurance from private insurers, which BTW will increase business for insurance companies......   so where's the logic? There is NO logic when it comes to the GOP.

There is NO equivalency....

There is NO Progressive equivalent to the hateful violent rhetoric coming from the right......

There is no leftist equivalent to the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), a group which was created from the mailing list of the old white supremacist White Citizens Councils,

There is no leftist equivalent to Glenn Beck, longtime user of eliminationist rhetoric, including equating universal healthcare to rape, joking about victims of forest fires being America-hating liberals, comparing Al Gore to Hitler, condoning the murder of Michael Moore, accusing Holocaust survivor George Soros of being a Nazi collaborator, joking about poisoning Nancy Pelosi, equating immigration reform with burning US citizens alive, publicly endorsing violent revolution, and winkingly telling his viewers not to get violent,

There is no leftist equivalent to Bill O'Reilly, he  has lied about and stalked his critics, said that

progressive bloggers should be dealt with "with a hand grenade," said Air America hosts were traitors and should be "put in chains," as well as: "And if Al Qaeda comes [to San Francisco] and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead."

There is no leftist equivalent to Pat "The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" Robertson, host of The 700 Club,

There is no leftist equivalent to the Minutemen and other radical and eliminationist-spewing anti-immigration groups, some of whom have been subcontracted to work the border by the US government.

There is no leftist equivalent to radical and eliminationist-spewing anti-choice groups, who openly target doctors and call for their assassinations—and had a success just last year in the murder of Dr. George Tiller—and whose leaders get featured in whitewashing profiles in the Washington Post.


I know the righties won't read this Alternet article, it's a great one pointing out the wingnuts hateful rhetoric while also saying the left is not without their extremists. But you can not equate the 2 sides and that is a fact, not just my humble opinion. There is NO left equivalent to Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Michelle Malkin, Ann Coulter... that's a fact. Sarah Palin likes to talk about the crosshairs map of hers saying it originated with the left, while not once pulling back and denouncing that kind of violent advertising. She says she has no intentions of shutting up, she will continue speaking out against the presidents policies as she has been doing, so I guess she takes no responsibility for the political atmosphere today. Thank you John McCain for introducing the country to Sarah Palin, the country will forever be changed, and NOT for the better. Her divisive attitude has permeated our politics. While the right claims Obama ran a campaign on bringing the country together but failed miserably, they have made it a priority to tear us apart. While President Obama has been reaching out to all citizens no matter their party affiliation, the right has maintained they will never take his hand, they will not work with the left to quiet the hate and violent rhetoric. They thrive on that kind of talk....that is who they are... guess we have to get used to it.

Come all ye "End Times" Christians and ye Athiests

My brother was just here, a heated argument ensued, he tells me this is not a right or left issue but it is "End Times" and I better get out my Bible and read the message. He told me the exact number of prophesies and the ones that have been fulfilled, he says we are nearing the fulfilling of all which will then bring on the rapture. SO... my friends... all this world wide mess going on, the US turning into a bankrupt socialistic country, which BTW he says is the fault of both parties, is this the actual word and prophesy of God, or is it nonsense? He says God put Barack Obama in power, all that is happening with the jobs leaving, the middleclass dying, the country going to hell in a handbasket are because of the policies put in place since the election of Obama. He says we have turned our backs on God, this is the problem. He also mention Chavez, Venezuela, Soviet Union and socialism, Medicare, welfare....yada yada yada

Give me your truth. Tell me why I should be looking to the skies for signs or just looking at the blue sky and puffy white clouds....

I'm taking off moderation so the comments can flow. But a message to trolls including lisa and pals, your comments will be deleted so don't bother.

A time for unity??

Last night President Obama called for unity, he called for civility in our debates. I do agree, BUT... I can't help but feel that ONCE AGAIN Democrats have to come to the plate, be the adults in the room and BACK DOWN!! Why do we have to constantly retreat and cower to the holier than thou conservatives?? For the past 3 years we have endured horrible lies, distortions and criticisms from those hypocrite Republicans!! Why do we have to take that and turn around and be civil Mr. President?? We have heard our president ridiculed, called every sick and nasty name in the book. His beautiful wife mocked, laughed at, portrayed as an ape.....even the Obama children have been made fun of.  So why do we have to cower to those thugs, to unify, to try and play nice with each other.... I SAY NO MR. PRESIDENT, I will NOT! As long as the righties feel they can be hateful  and disrespectful to my party and to Americas president then I will not calm my partisan viewpoints.

During President Obamas address to the nation, we hear YOU LIE in the Republican side of the room, how disrespectful, how degrading! We also witness a Supreme Court Justice shake his head and mouth the words THAT'S A LIE! Never in our history has that happened. Those Republicans show no respect for our president. If such disrespect happened under a Republican president the Dems would be lambasted!


Joe Scarborough this morning shows a clip of Jon Stewart speaking with Tim Pawlenty about Glenn Beck. Scarborough and Stewart are so Right on this issue of Republican hypocrisy!

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 Joe said this on his Tuesday show talking about Beck....
"I have a lot of family members that listen to him and watch him and are frightened by the things that he says every night with his chalkboard...my mom and a lot of other people like her that watch him every day start to believe if they hear every day, every day, that there's this guy in Washington D.C., this black guy that hates all white people and he wants to take your money . . . and he wants to destroy the country you grew up in. You feed that vile message to Americans every day, it's going to have an impact."

I like Joe, he's the only one speaking from the right who speaks the truth about conservative rhetoric crossing the line of civility.

Mr. President I hear you, I understand where you are coming from, but until I see changes from the right wingers you won't see any change coming from this blogger. Somebody has to stand up to those thugs!

UPDATE: Immoral Minority proves my point! Here are the live tweets from Tammy Bruce, conservative Palin lover, during last nights memorial service...

Live tweeting Obama's Massacre Rally Theatre
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Urkel and Mrs. Urkel have walked in, applause like they're rock stars. Amazing.
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OMG, the "Native American" says he's Mexican and the crowd goes wild. Whistles, hoots, cheers.
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Urkel is mouthing the words of the anthem, I think the Big Elbow of Karma may have moved into his vicinity
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Once again Urkel has found his props--a bunch of murdered people.
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It's just a little weird to see The Urkels try so hard to look...like they care.
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Oh I see! The Obama Admin are the New Priests. Holder also reading fro Bible. Shouldn't they be reading from Mao's Little Red Book?
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Did TOTUS fail? He keeps looking at his notes
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This is why Obama should not have gone--he turned it into a circus because he needed it to be "his Oklahoma City."
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Once again Urkel has found his props--a bunch of murdered people.
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The crowd reaction is making this more like grief porn instead of a memorial. Something is very wrong here
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This man has no shame. "If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate--as it should--lets make sure it's worthy of those we have lost"
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Obama *used* Giffords opening her eyes as an *applause line*. Saying it over and over again. Stunning.
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Chris Wallace also thinks the speech was great. I guess the Dems were right, Obama did need mass murder to rally his base
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I rest my case...

President Barack Obama spoke tonight.....

Our President spoke at the memorial service in Arizona for the victims of Saturdays shooting rampage. His words were comforting to the families and to all Americans...

He spoke with elegance and grace..... he has a great love for our country and the people, it showed tonight....he spoke about the victims, about the heros, and about those who are recovering ... Gabrielle Giffords opened her eyes for the first time today!

He showed me tonight why I am proud to have Barack Obama as my president. Beautifully done Mr. President, Beautifully done....

the truth of the matter...

There are many conservatives this week accusing liberals of jumping to conclusions about the Arizona shooter, whether or not this murderer was influenced by rightwing hate. They say it's not fair to blame people on the right. They say how can there be a connection when this man was infatuated with Hitler, hell he was a pot smoking lefty....according to classmates....they say.

Remember, it's the conservatives, the tea party, who are showing such disdain for our government,  they are the party spewing the anti government rhetoric (just like the shooter), it is their tea party princess with the cross hair decorated map targeting Democratic Congressmen and women, it is their precious patriotic tea party members showing up at rallies with guns strapped to their legs,  and holding signs that show guns with violent wording, it's conservative candidates running for office who offer a chance to shoot a gun with them, it's not the liberal candidates doing that...

Remember the HC bill vote, our Republican members of Congress stood on the balcony of the people's House holding the Don't Tread on Me flag, practically inciting a riot, whipping the teabaggers into a frenzy with their hate speeches! Oh but that's good and fine because first amendment rights and all that.....

Remember Texas Gov. Rick Perry and his stance against the government, threatening secession because of taxation, spending, and debt?  Oh yea he loved firing up those teabaggers at the big Texas rallies.

 And the patriotic conservative Chuck Norris who said he might run for president of Texas....
I may run for president of Texas he said, “That need may be a reality sooner than we think. If not me, someone someday may again be running for president of the Lone Star state, if the state of the union continues to turn into the enemy of the state.” The actor claimed “thousands of cell groups will be united around the country in solidarity over the concerns for our nation” and said that if states decide to secede from the union, that Texas would lead the way.
“Anyone who has been around Texas for any length of time knows exactly what we'd do if the going got rough in America".

Remember rightwing hysteria during the HC debates, the town halls where seniors would stand up and scream "Keep your hands off my Medicare!" The death panel lies, this sort of fearmongering turns ordinary civil citizens into raving maniacs. Beck, Limbaugh, Palin..all guilty of stirring up fear and hysteria. This is what could turn a mentally ill person into a murderer. Far fetched you say? If a person targets a political figure, then most likely they are mad at government, right? So take rightwing radio hosts talking dirt on our president and the Democrats in Congress, the liberal agenda they call socialism,  Fox news lies, and you have an ill person soaking it all up, taking it all in and believing....

So see, these few examples of rightwing hysteria are just the sort of thing that can take a mentally unstable person and turn him into a murder. I don't say rightwing fearmongering was a motive for the murderous rampage, I say these examples of hysterical anti-government revolt seep into the brains of the mentally ill and become truth even when it's nowhere near the truth.

Evil Marches On......Rightwing media is to blame

Jared Loughner identifies himself, through his YouTube video, as an anti-Federal Government, ‘Original’ Constitutionalist, angry at the U.S. Armed Force’s Christian proselytizing, and convinced of a government plan to brainwash citizens through grammar.  His posted ramblings are indicative of a deeply unstable personality, pushed to the limits by anti-government fear-mongering, and political environment, that has been teetering on the edge of violence since a black man was elected to the office of President.
Somewhere between his interpretation of the Communist Manifesto (which I’m sure the Right-Wing media will use to label him as a Left-Wing assailant, rather than a simply, and thoroughly, disturbed individual), and Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf – along with an assortment of other conspiracy theories rolled in – Jared Loughner developed his ‘conscience dreaming,’ anti-government , grammar-as-brainwashing ideas.  An act of deadly violence committed by a seriously wounded psyche such as this, encouraged by statements from politicians and media personalities justifying violence, was more than simply a vague potentiality.

The conservatives who are out in force defending their own are not looking at this with wide open eyes and minds. The Fox people have been ramping up the antigovernment hate JUST since the election of Barack Obama. That IS FACT. No other network TV show would allow it's hosts to get away with this kind of talk. How many more have to die before the Becks and Palins, Angles and Limbaughs, admit the violence comes from the mentally deranged who blindly follow their every word and command. DO NOT RETREAT...RELOAD. The first commandment in todays political arena....it's coming from rightwingers...