Saturday, October 10, 2009

Public option ad nauseum

Once again our friend Linda is so fearful of healthcare reform that I am forced to try and show her some more of the facts. Yes this post has been taken from Huffington Post and written by Sen. Sherrod Brown, but who better to explain than he?

So here we go again...

A majority of Americans support a public option. An overwhelming majority of Democrats in Congress support a public option. Doctors support a public option. Why then is the public option seen by some as the third rail of health insurance reform?

We know the disturbing facts by heart: Millions of Americans are one illness -- or one pink slip -- away from bankruptcy because of high health care costs and lack of access to affordable insurance. 30 million Americans are without health insurance. Nearly 400 Ohioans lose their insurance every day.

Middle class families pay $1,000 annually in hidden taxes to recoup the cost of care for our nation's uninsured.

When you look at the plan on its merits, the opposition makes little sense. It saves money. It will be available everywhere in the country -- providing reliable, affordable, quality health care to those in need. It injects competition into a marketplace that in most parts of the country is dominated by one or two companies.

What will happen if we hand over taxpayer-funded subsidies to the insurance industry and rely on them to cover all Americans? Insurers will demand higher and higher subsidies each year. Why wouldn't they? It's called profit maximization. After all, these are the same companies that pay their CEOs tens of millions of dollars each year while millions of Americans go without any health insurance.

A strong public option means competition for private insurance companies. It means coverage continuity in every part of the country. It means health insurance reform that ensures affordable access to coverage for every American.

I have held nearly 140 roundtables across Ohio in the last two years, and half a dozen health care town halls and events in the last two months. I have heard story after story of individuals and families who can't afford to buy insurance -- and can't afford not to. They watch their savings drain away as their health care costs soar.

The insurance industry has been in business for nearly a hundred years, and it has not managed to cover all Americans. Instead of wishing the insurance market would change, we need to change it. That's what the public option would do.

Progress rarely comes easily. It took a united Democratic party, committed to change, to establish Social Security and Medicare -- progressive milestones that pulled seniors out of poverty and increased Americans' life expectancy. Progressive milestones that were staunchly opposed by Congressional Republicans.

The public option is the moral compass of health reform. In the last 100 years, Democrats have yet to be on the wrong side of progressive reform.


There you have it, reform in a nutshell. Those who oppose this are fearful of the change to come, they fear insurance companies will be run out of business. Were they with Medicare? NO. And they won't be with a public option either. Insurance companies are fearmongering, they want you to believe they will fold, it's a lie. If you call this a lie, then I have nothing more to say, you are on your own. If I hear or read one more word on HCR, I will explode!

13 comments:

The CDM said...

Touching that you reach out to Linda like that. You can beat that dead horse all you want, you're only going to be left with nothing but flies to swat and we know what comes from flies.

I got a chance to listen to former Senator Bill Frist(also a surgeon) but his logic on the public option is flawed. Everyone in the audience had this "what the fuck" groan going on. Glad I wasn't the only one. If you ask me, I think Sen. Paul Broun has been getting his intel from him.

Ad nauseum it is Sue. Someone's gotta do it. By the way, I got this cool article on Health Care in the inbox you just HAVE to read.

B.J. said...

Linda must have passed out from all the common sense! But, let’s not make this thread about her, OK?

CDM: Bill Frist dazzled America when he diagnosed poor Terri Schiavo from watching a videotape of her. Was there a Q&A, and did anyone ask him about that?

If this healthcare reform debate is not soon over, I’m going to need more Pepto-Bismol. Can’t imagine what it’s done to my blood pressure!

It strikes me as very sad that the states where health and well-being are lowest are the very states where people have been brainwashed to believe reform is a bad thing.

BJ

Tao Dao Man said...

SUE; i agree with you. most who oppose this are afraid of change, and a new era. it is not even the fear, it is the mind set that is frightening.


BJ; you beat me to it. FRIST==SCHIAVO. he has zero credibility, zilch, nada. As far as i am concerned Frist is null and void. especially when it comes to anything resembling health care.

Sue said...

IF she even dares read this BJ! I'm with ya on the pepto, I'm so bored with the debating I had to switch over to the QVC website, thats not a good thing for a reformed QVC queen!

RZ their mindset will not set them free. Whatever.. I'm tired, LOL!

C, wheres the email??

Annette said...

Sue, that's why I stopped debating with them.. as long as you feed the trolls they keep coming back.. best thing is to start ignoring them.

Seriously.. you need to just quit arguing with them, talking to them, or even discussing with them. Just let them say things and pretend they aren't there.. soon they will leave and not come back.. they will starve themselves.

Don't feed the trolls.

B.J. said...

Annette:

You are absolutely right.

It’s very hard to ignore them when they attack someone who is telling the truth out of their own ignorance, then tell that person to PROVE what was said.

I just addressed charges Linda made against RealityZone. Yet, I know it would be best to ignore her and Lisa. If we did, there would be far less comments to plow through. If I’m going to read comments, I prefer to spend my time reading meaningful opinions, not being swiped by naïve and uninformed KoolAid drinkers!

I’m going to try really hard to ignore these two commenters. They are a waste of my (our) time.

Thanks, BJ

Sue said...

I understand what you are saying Annette. Linda isn't considered a troll on this blog, she is a conservative giving her point of view in a mostly civilized manner and surely sparks alot of debate. Yes it usually gets heated and moves off topic but for the most part its fine. I don't really get trolls, and I rarely get snide remarks unless the 'jane the troll' people come back around. I think they've crawled back under the bridge tho! :-))

The CDM said...

Sue, reading throught thse comments, it's deja vu all over again.

Annette, B.J., if I didn't know any better, I'd swear you overheard a phone conversation between me and Sue.

TomCat said...

Well done, Sue. I tried to make sense to her Saturday.

Journey Home said...

Over 60% of All US Bankruptcies Attributable to Medical Problems
Most victims are middle class, well educated and have health insurance

August 2009 issue of The American Journal of Medicine

In 2007, before the current economic downturn, an American family filed
for bankruptcy in the aftermath of illness every 90 seconds; three-quarters of them were insured. Over 60% of all bankruptcies in the United States in 2007 were driven by medical incidents.

The share of bankruptcies attributable to medical problems
rose by 50% between 2001 and 2007.

http://www.amjmed.com/webfiles/images/journals/ajm/AJMMedicalBankruptcyJun09FINAL2.pdf

They are crushing the overall markets from coast to coast – skimming as much of the froth off the top of the middle class as they can so much so that we can’t even afford movie tickets anymore. And they have an anti-trust exemption (like baseball) – the whole insurance industry is an albatross around the neck of the entire economy.

Paul Burke
Author-Journey Home

The Wool Cupboard said...

Sue ~ Here is something interesting for all of you who agreed with Alan Grayson's lie about republicans wanting sick people to "die quickly."


Robert Reich supports a government-run public health insurance option for the United States.
In a 2007 speech to an audience at UC Berkeley, Reich, who is an advisor to President Barack Obama, said that a truthful presidential candidate would say in regard to health care: "...if you're very old, we're not going to give you all that technology and all those drugs for the last couple of years of your life to keep you maybe going for another couple of months. It's too expensive...so we're going to let you die."


I resent any bureaucrat presuming to tell me or anyone else that they are "too old" for treatment. Who appointed them "God" over American citizens of any age? Still think that "rationing" of health care won't happen under ObamaCare?

Sue said...

I'm gonna have to do some research on that Linda. It's sounding almost sarcastic to me, like he was making fun of someone. We'll see. Seems kinda far fetched to me tho.

The Wool Cupboard said...

Sue ~ Did you find anything on Robert Reich's statement about letting old people die yet? Info. is all over, so you shouln't have any trouble finding the quote. I think it is pretty clear--his ominous warning to elderly people who get sick under ObamaCare.