This was on The Plum Line, Greg Sargents Blog and also Huffington Post :
Polls: In Key States, Public Option Far More Popular Than Senate Plan
Okay, this should really give a boost to those arguing that Dems should pass the public option via reconciliation — for the specific reason that it will make the Senate health reform bill more popular.
A batch of state polls by the non-partisan Research 2000 shows that in multiple states represented by key Dem Senators who will have to decide whether to support reconciliation, the public option polls far better than the Senate bill does, often by lopsided margins.
Here’s a rundown, sent over by the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which commissioned the polls:
* In Nevada, only 34% support the Senate bill, while 56% support the public option.
* In Illinois, only 37% support the Senate bill, while 68% support the public option.
* In Washington State, only 38% support the Senate bill, while 65% support the public option.
* In Missouri, only 33% support the Senate bill, while 57% support the public option.
* In Virginia, only 36% support the Senate bill, while 61% support the public option.
* In Iowa, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.
*In Minnesota, only 35% support the Senate bill, while 62% support the public option.
* In Colorado, only 32% support the Senate bill, while 58% support the public option.
When the White House unveiled its new proposal to take to the summit, it did not include a public option, as expected. Obviously, including one would have made it easier for Republicans to argue that Dems aren’t making a good-faith effort to compromise, since the public option is the centerpiece of the dreaded “government takeover” that Republicans have warned against.
But if the summit yields no compromises, and Dems decide to forge ahead on their own and pass reform via reconciliation, including the public option at that point might make some political sense, if the above polls are to be believed.
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Update: I should have noted that the polls were commissioned by not just PCCC, but also Democracy for America and Credo. And the groups are also out with a petition urging lawmakers to understand that signatories want a good bill rather than bipartisanship for its own sake.
Update II: The full poll on all the states, with partisan breakdowns and other questions, is online right here.
So far.... 22 Senators have signed the public option letter!
15 comments:
A good sign. Wish they'd shown a full state-by-state poll. Would like to see what voters in this red-neck state think.
I'm still wanting everyone to call this what it actually is: Health Insurance Reform. Or at least it should be.
The republicans are so good at distorting and cherrypicking their "facts". It is disgusting.
That's a great list of poll numbers and it shows you how you can you can make two completely opposite statements and not really be lying.
But it is a big extrapolation to go from not supporting the Senate bill to not supporting health care reform as the republicans continue to do. It should be obvious to anyone that the majority of the public supports a public option. Support of a public option IS support for health care reform.
When the republicans say that the American public overwhelmingly rejects healthcare reform, they are a bunch of lying assholes and need to be called on it every time they say it.
Leslie the very last sentence has a link for all the states.
C, I thought everyone did start to call it insurance reform, yes that is what it is.
Jerry it is so stupid of repubs still saying the people don't want this. Its just making them look like idiots(well, even more so!)They don't want this black dem president to reform HC, pure and simple. But like Matthews says to almost every whiny repub that goes on his show, "well why didn't you guys do it when you had the chance?" They never have a straight answer for him!
Hell, they don't have a straight answer for shit!
But like Matthews says to almost every whiny repub that goes on his show, "well why didn't you guys do it when you had the chance?" They never have a straight answer for him!
Maybe they didn't want to.
We cannot have a one size fits all. We are too frigging big to have a centralized system.
Stop advocating the demise of America with your "group" mentality.
If you don't think you will be one of the ones looking in from the outside soon think again.
you got that right anon. The repugs don't want insurance reform because they don't care about us little folks in the middle and the poor who pay out the ass for coverage that frankly sucks! GREAT JOB ANON!!
Actually it's the same states with different questions.
Of course they care. They care about what the real cost of this monstrosity will be and they care about the care of lack there of this will bring.
It ALWAYS comes down to money with the righties. We have Medicare now, if we rid the program of its waste and fraud then we can well afford medicare for all. We are the richest nation on Earth, WE CAN DO IT!
It's amazing what lies the American people have been willing to believe from the Republicans.
I think it amazes the Republicans also, so they just keep trying, to see which one of their lies Americans will swallow.
They claim the election of a Republican Senator from MA means the American people no longer want reform. BS, and the polls prove that lie wrong.
One reason the American people are upset, is because they did not get the public option the were promised. Just the opposite, that Republicans are claiming.
Tom its the MSM too, they are not getting the truth out. All they want to talk about is the outrageousness coming from the right wing nuts. But you have to counter that with the TRUTH! Like these polls, you are exactly right, Obamas numbers are dropping because of his lack of force on things like HC, while the MSM will portray the polls as saying the people are mad about Obamas TOO LEFT agenda! Its such a lie!
Universal Healthcare simplified:
- Increased mortality rates among the elderly
- More and more people denied expensive, life saving treatments. "Compassionate" pain killers will be the preferred course.
- Lower standard of living as higher tax rates, hidden taxes and more fees are imposed on the American public.
- Increasingly longer waits for routine visits and surgeries.
- Increased rejection rates.
- A wide disparity between what politicians and rich get vs what the general public gets.
- Black market medicine and doctors.
lisa I posted this comment from you so all can see the stupidity coming from your party. Pathetic...
Thank you, lisa, for your informative list of what will happen with universal healthcare. It is truly enlightening.
It is also amazing how the rest of the industrialize world has got it so wrong, yet they continue to survive. I wonder why that is?
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