10 hours ago
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
BREAKING NEWS!
Reid says caucus went well, all had smiles on their faces! Bill will be online tonight. Said a public option is included. "Finish line is in sight"! CBO has validated the bill will actually reduce deficit by 127B over 10 years, and this bill is paid for. Right now on MSNBC, gotta go listen!
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I'd have to go to church at least for a couple minutes if a miracle happened with this bill.
Come on One Fly, show some enthusiasm!! It is gonna happen :-)
Holy shit... I'm excited!!!
The redrail detail will be in the fine print.
now they need to roll it up and smack some people upside the head with it (i'm lookin' at you, blue dogs).
I was just listening to Tom Harkin on Rachel, he says there will be 60 votes so that means bluedogs AND Liebermann! I trust Harkin, I can't imagine he would say it if he had doubts. Call me optimistic but this bill is goin to the floor!! YAY. I think we'll be happy in the end if it retains everything Harkin believes it will, when it gets to the Presidents desk! Stay positive guys, dems CAN do it!
Edited on Mon Oct-26-09 01:12 PM by Better Believe It
Is that the only way a healthcare bill can pass the Senate and defeat a Republican filibuster .... just don't allow one to start? Not at all.
That's the grand deception and excuse being used to further weaken any bill that is brought to the Senate floor for a vote. We've all heard it repeated over and over and over again. "We have to get 60 votes to stop a filibuster before we can bring a bill to the Senate for a vote". So what kind of bill might achieve 60 votes without facing a potential Republican filibuster? One that has been greatly weakened and is acceptable to Democratic "conservatives" and so-called Republican "moderates" in the Senate!
That's the game that is being played.
The truth is, Democrats don't have to and shouldn't wait around for 60 votes to materialize before a healthcare bill is introduced in the full Senate.
They can force the Republicans to engage in an authentic filibuster on the Senate floor and keep that legislation on the floor until they achieve the 60 votes needed to end a filibuster. That might be a matter of hours or perhaps a few days. And that bill will certainly be stronger than one that is introduced without a genuine Republican filibuster threat.
I was googleing and found this, interesting!
Of course it will be deficit neutral with higher costs and rationed care. And Reid fails to inform us what happens after the 10 years is up but why should he care about the future he'll be gone by then anyway.
Failure is not an option even if you cannot have a mammogram until you are 50 and then only every 2 years and if you don't believe that I have a bridge to sell you.
Failure is not an option because they would rather pass a crappy bill than no bill at all . A bill that was designed not for the welfare of the people but to secure future votes for themselves.
actually lisa after the first ten years and 127 B lowering the deficit, the following ten years they are saying 650 billion will be added to lower the deficit. Why don't you inform yourself by actually listening to the SMART people
Like I said they throw these numbers around and everyone believes it. And to acheive that they have to raise costs and ration care.
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