Friday, November 6, 2009

Is your job going to a Bosnian??

The nation's unemployment rate soared in October to 10.2 percent, the highest rate since 1983, the government announced Friday.
The nation's employers shed 190,000 jobs from their payrolls over the last month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said this morning, bringing the total number of jobs lost since the recession started to 7.3 million.

Now I know the government has had a hand in bringing disadvantaged people into our country for years, but something has happened to one of my family members this year and I'm seeing something first hand I didn't have a clue about.

My neice works for a major bank, one of the "big banks" in Delaware. When another "big bank" took over this bank there was major restructuring. My neice, who was employed there for over 10 years and was a department manager making a good wage, was told her department was being eliminated. So, she has found herself in the job searching market like hundreds of thousands of Americans.

Last week she told me she was going to New York to train people who have been hired to do her job that has moved to New York! This major bank has eliminated jobs in Delaware and moved that part of the bank to New York, do you know why?? I just got the story, and there are missing pieces because the neice was leary of me talking about it in blogland, but I'm pissed so here's what I know...

The government is bringing people from Bosnia to America, this bank has hired these people for one third the cost of employing educated and experienced American workers!! SO.... the American worker stands in the unemployment line while the Bosnian has her job, It's not just Bosnia of course, it is all over the world. Do you live in an area where all gas stations and dollar stores are owned by foreignors?? I do!! Does anyone talk about this?? Well maybe the time is now, when Americans are losing their jobs and can't find employment!

So when you read about employers shedding thousands of jobs, Are they doing it to rehire the cheaper worker?

From USA TODAY:


AP Investigation: Banks sought foreign workers





SANTA CLARA, Calif. — Major U.S. banks sought government permission to bring thousands of foreign workers into the country for high-paying jobs even as the system was melting down last year and Americans were getting laid off, according to an Associated Press review of visa applications.

The dozen banks now receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign workers over the past six years for positions that included senior vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts and human resources specialists. The average annual salary for those jobs was $90,721, nearly twice the median income for all American households.

As the economic collapse worsened last year -- with huge numbers of bank employees laid off -- the numbers of visas sought by the dozen banks in AP's analysis increased by nearly one-third, from 3,258 in the 2007 budget year to 4,163 in fiscal 2008.

The AP reviewed visa applications the banks filed with the Labor Department under the H-1B visa program, which allows temporary employment of foreign workers in specialized-skill and advanced-degree positions. Such visas are most often associated with high-tech workers.

It is unclear how many foreign workers the banks actually hired; the government does not release those details. The actual number is likely a fraction of the 21,800 foreign workers the banks sought to hire because the government only grants 85,000 such visas each year among all U.S. employers.

During the last three months of 2008, the largest banks that received taxpayer loans announced more than 100,000 layoffs. The number of foreign workers included among those laid off is unknown.

Foreigners are attractive hires because companies have found ways to pay them less than American workers.

Companies are required to pay foreign workers a prevailing wage based on the job's description. But they can use the lower end of government wage scales even for highly skilled workers; hire younger foreigners with lower salary demands; and hire foreigners with higher levels of education or advanced degrees for jobs for which similarly educated American workers would be considered overqualified.

"The system provides you perfectly legal mechanisms to underpay the workers," said John Miano of Summit, N.J., a lawyer who has analyzed the wage data and started the Programmers Guild, an advocacy group that opposes the H-1B system.

David Huber of Chicago is a computer networking engineer who has testified to Congress about losing out on a 2002 job with the former Bank One Corp. He learned later the bank applied to hire dozens of foreign visa holders for work he said he was qualified to do.

"American citizenship is being undermined working in our own country," Huber said in an AP interview.

Beyond seeking approval for visas from the government, banks that accepted federal bailout money also enlisted uncounted foreign workers, often in technology jobs, through intermediary companies known as "body shops." Such businesses are the top recipients of the H-1B visas.

The use of visa workers by ailing banks angers Sen. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, the senior Republican on the Senate Finance Committee.

"In this time of very, very high unemployment ... and considering the help these banks are getting from the taxpayers, they're playing the American taxpayer for a sucker," Grassley said in a telephone interview with AP.

Grassley, with Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., is pushing for legislation to make employers recruit American workers first, along with other changes to the visa program.

Banks turned to foreign workers before the current economic crisis, said Diane Casey-Landry, chief operating officer for the American Bankers Association. The group said a year ago that demand exceeded the pool of qualified workers in areas like sales, lending and bank administration. Now with massive layoffs, the situation is different, Casey-Landry said.

The issue takes on a higher profile as the government injects billions of dollars into the economy and President Barack Obama pushes for massive government spending to create jobs nationwide, on top of the $700 billion already approved for the ailing banks.

"You're using taxpayer dollars and there's an expectation that there are benefits to the U.S.," said Ron Hira, a national expert on foreign employment and assistant public policy professor at the Rochester Institute of Technology. "What you're really doing is leaking away those jobs and benefits that should accrue to the taxpayers."

But New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg believes more access to "worldwide talent pools" will better position U.S. financial companies against global competitors, spokesman Andrew Brent said.

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services declined to disclose details on foreign workers hired at the banks that have received federal bailouts. The AP has requested the information under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act.

Nearly all the banks the AP contacted also declined to comment on their foreign hiring practices. Arlene C. Roberts, spokeswoman for State Street Corp. of Boston, which has received $2 billion in bailout money, said the company has reduced H-1B hiring in recent years, and just hires for specialized positions.

Jennifer Scott of Yreka, Calif., a retired technical systems manager at Bank of America in Concord, Calif., said in 2004 she oversaw foreign employees from a contractor firm that also sent overnight work to employees in India.

"It had nothing to do with a shortage, but they didn't want to pay the U.S. rate," she said, adding that the quality of the work was weak. "It's all about numbers crunching."









12 comments:

Unknown said...

I am from Bosnia. And I do not know what you mean with Bosnian. Bosnia is only a region, not a nation. So please write Moslem. Croat or Serb. But I am sure it was a Moslem who took the work.
And that is normal in a capitalistic world and I do not need to explain who invent capitalism? Americans of course.

Sue said...

kate this is from WIKIPEDIA...Regardless of ethnicity, a citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina is often identified in English as a Bosnian.

JoeBama "Truth 101" Kelly said...

I guarentee the big bank executives won't be replacing themselves with cheap executives from other countries Sue.

And they still wonder why we bust these people's chops.

B.J. said...

Sue: I've just caught up on reading your last few posts. Thanks for continuing to point out the problems which might otherwise go unnoticed. As for Molly Ivins, the very first post on DemWit was titled "Bushwhacked." She was a gentle warrior. BJ

Sue said...

NO, Truth, I'm talking about the ordinary workers. My neice was not an executive, her whole department was eliminated in Delaware and moved to NY so these workers from another country could get hired without it being so obvious! Lay off Americans and hire Bosnians, is it the American way?? Yes, kate, it is!!

Sue said...

thanks BJ, and I will come by and read that post!

TomCat said...

Grassley, with Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., is pushing for legislation to make employers recruit American workers first, along with other changes to the visa program.

I would fully support such legislation, Sue, and would also like to see legislation to prevent using taxpayer money to assist US corporations in firing US workers to move operations overseas.

jadedj said...

I have nothing against Bosnians/Croats/Serbs/Moslems, et al. But this is beyond infuriating, not at the ethnic groups, but at the greed factor. The corporate greed factor. It is simply out of control, with no regard for consequences.

I am not a religious man, but God how I would like to see these fuckers roast. Too bad it's all a myth.

Anonymous said...

Sue.... Ya FUCKING Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Bill has passed!!!! The Health Care Reform bill has passed!!!! :)

(Doing the Happy Dance!)

xoxoxox

Sue said...

OMG!! Donna, when I opened my email and read this from you I thought at first you were calling me a fucking HO!!! LOLOLOLOL!!! Seriously I had to read it twice LOLO!! I thought, what the hell did I do now?? LOLOL!!!

Yes sweetie, the bill passed the house and with one rethug, but now it must pass the senate. Thats the hard part!!

Lisa said...

Of course it passed Pelosi wouldn't have dared gone through a vote knowing it couldn't pass. Although it didn't win by that much.
I just wished they'd have talked about it more thoroughly and honestly instead of patting each other on the back like it was a competition.
I just wished they would let private insurance be more regulated if they are so concerned about costs. But by all accounts this bill is going to add alot to the deficit without doing whatever it is supposed to be doing.
What exactly is it going to do again? I think I missed that.
It all sounds so sketchy.
I mean talking points like lower costs and more choice really doesn't say much. It only sounds good.
Didn't the democrats get the memo that many people are concerned about jobs too?
I guess we can expect more people from other countries working in our financial institutions as we move forward with Obama's "Global Initiative"
Hope and Change Baby!

Anonymous said...

LMAO... Oh Sue Sue, I would NEVRER!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaaha.....

Oh and Lisa, STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are just plain stupid... you sound like a two year old mimicking every adult that you hear.. especially the drunk out of control ones...

xoxoxo
Donna M